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	<title>Comments on: I don&#8217;t accept Edelman&#8217;s apology for the bogus Wal-Mart Blog&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Debbie Weil</title>
		<link>http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/10/i-dont-accept-edelmans-apology-for-the-bogus-wal-mart-blog#comment-58595</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie Weil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

Me thinks you protest too much. I did *not* apologize for Edelman's Wal-Mart flog. I did suggest that Edelman must have gotten some wires crossed between their account execs and their client, Wal-Mart. And I specifically made the point that Edelman's "silence" (their non-response for five days or longer) was their biggest mistake. I am not in Edelman's employ nor do I expect to be. Frankly they don't need me, or you or anyone else who writes for this blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>Me thinks you protest too much. I did *not* apologize for Edelman&#8217;s Wal-Mart flog. I did suggest that Edelman must have gotten some wires crossed between their account execs and their client, Wal-Mart. And I specifically made the point that Edelman&#8217;s &#8220;silence&#8221; (their non-response for five days or longer) was their biggest mistake. I am not in Edelman&#8217;s employ nor do I expect to be. Frankly they don&#8217;t need me, or you or anyone else who writes for this blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Sally Falkow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sally Falkow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Dave,  

The tone of a group is always set up the top. And like Caesar's wife, the executives of a group like WOMMA have to be above reproach.

When one of the perceived 'best' makes a mistake like this, and violates the basic rules of blogging, it's a big blunder.

And there are indeed aspects that don't ring true. Why would Rubel not be involved in a blog project for such a big client?  who was involved?  Who will take the heat?

As my old Dad used to say - I smell a rat as big as an elephant.

But bloggers are a strange bunch: while we will skewer you if you're not honest and open, we are quite forgiving once you admit you screwed up. 

It will be interesting to see how they handle it going forward. One comment that does ring true - their staff definitely  needs more PR 2.0 training.  

As a traditonal PR stunt this would be a great idea. And everyone would know the client and the PR agency were behind it.  But in the blogging world it doesn't fly.  And PR agencies need to learn the differnce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Dave,  </p>
<p>The tone of a group is always set up the top. And like Caesar&#8217;s wife, the executives of a group like WOMMA have to be above reproach.</p>
<p>When one of the perceived &#8216;best&#8217; makes a mistake like this, and violates the basic rules of blogging, it&#8217;s a big blunder.</p>
<p>And there are indeed aspects that don&#8217;t ring true. Why would Rubel not be involved in a blog project for such a big client?  who was involved?  Who will take the heat?</p>
<p>As my old Dad used to say - I smell a rat as big as an elephant.</p>
<p>But bloggers are a strange bunch: while we will skewer you if you&#8217;re not honest and open, we are quite forgiving once you admit you screwed up. </p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how they handle it going forward. One comment that does ring true - their staff definitely  needs more PR 2.0 training.  </p>
<p>As a traditonal PR stunt this would be a great idea. And everyone would know the client and the PR agency were behind it.  But in the blogging world it doesn&#8217;t fly.  And PR agencies need to learn the differnce.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog do livro Blog Corporativo &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Envolver blogueiros em campanhas tem limite?</title>
		<link>http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/10/i-dont-accept-edelmans-apology-for-the-bogus-wal-mart-blog#comment-54860</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog do livro Blog Corporativo &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Envolver blogueiros em campanhas tem limite?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Particularmente acho que envolver blogueiros tem tudo haver com campanhas de marketing que necessitam de se espalhar neste nosso mundo de cauda longa. Mas pagar para blogueiros escrever sobre sua empresa, manipular posts para alavancar audiência (essa história do Wal-Mart é ótima), associar-se ao PayperPost para vender sua alma, podem ser ações não muito bacanas, e que prejudicam a verdadeira essência do blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Particularmente acho que envolver blogueiros tem tudo haver com campanhas de marketing que necessitam de se espalhar neste nosso mundo de cauda longa. Mas pagar para blogueiros escrever sobre sua empresa, manipular posts para alavancar audiência (essa história do Wal-Mart é ótima), associar-se ao PayperPost para vender sua alma, podem ser ações não muito bacanas, e que prejudicam a verdadeira essência do blog. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin OKeefe</title>
		<link>http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/10/i-dont-accept-edelmans-apology-for-the-bogus-wal-mart-blog#comment-54298</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin OKeefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Scoble - did just that. Say apology was good enough.
http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/richard-edelman-calls/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Scoble - did just that. Say apology was good enough.<br />
<a href="http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/richard-edelman-calls/" rel="nofollow">http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/richard-edelman-calls/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Woodward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Woodward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I think that the issue itself is sort of a 'tempest in a teapot', you bring up a good point concerning the &lt;i&gt;bruling class&lt;/i&gt; (blog ruling class).

Of course they're tolerant of the misstep...it's companies like this one that will pay their consulting fees as they buy into the technology.

There is nothing new going on here, including the pretense,


Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think that the issue itself is sort of a &#8216;tempest in a teapot&#8217;, you bring up a good point concerning the <i>bruling class</i> (blog ruling class).</p>
<p>Of course they&#8217;re tolerant of the misstep&#8230;it&#8217;s companies like this one that will pay their consulting fees as they buy into the technology.</p>
<p>There is nothing new going on here, including the pretense,</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: The Writing On The Wal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Edelman Apologizes?</title>
		<link>http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/10/i-dont-accept-edelmans-apology-for-the-bogus-wal-mart-blog#comment-54218</link>
		<dc:creator>The Writing On The Wal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Edelman Apologizes?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] UPDATE: Gary Short agrees. Dave Taylor at Business Blog Consulting doesn&#8217;t accept Edelmans &#8220;apology&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] UPDATE: Gary Short agrees. Dave Taylor at Business Blog Consulting doesn&#8217;t accept Edelmans &#8220;apology&#8221;. [...]</p>
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