Comments on: The Nofollow Rule = No Good? http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good News, commentary, tools and tips about business blogging and the world of corporate blogs Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:58:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Jeff The Abunza Guy http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good#comment-803976 Jeff The Abunza Guy Mon, 05 May 2008 14:43:12 +0000 http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good.html#comment-803976 I’d love to see blog packages offer some options with respect to this, such as: All posts published directly without waiting for moderation. Posts that include hyperlinks get rel=”nofollow” added to all of their links, and get flagged for moderator review. If the moderator approves the comment, rel=”nofollow” attributes are removed from that comment’s links. I know there are more options that could be devised and discussed, and am very interested to see how all this turns out. I’d love to see blog packages offer some options with respect to this, such as:
All posts published directly without waiting for moderation.

Posts that include hyperlinks get rel=”nofollow” added to all of their links, and get flagged for moderator review.

If the moderator approves the comment, rel=”nofollow” attributes are removed from that comment’s links.

I know there are more options that could be devised and discussed, and am very interested to see how all this turns out.

]]> By: CGlines http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good#comment-425342 CGlines Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:37:36 +0000 http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good.html#comment-425342 I just realized that your page includes the nofollow tag... Interesting that I just posted about hypocrisy. I just realized that your page includes the nofollow tag…

Interesting that I just posted about hypocrisy.

]]> By: CGlines http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good#comment-425336 CGlines Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:35:07 +0000 http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good.html#comment-425336 I know I'm a little bit late on this discussion, but as a new hand to web design and this whole SEO craze, my personal opinion of nofollow is that it is hypocritical in a sense as far as Google is concerned. In my opinion, a lot of what nofollow does is makes it nearly impossible for new, legit websites to gain rank without having to pay some stupid SEO company to generate links for them (this is unless they are already well connected to the web-design or blogging community and have friends to provide linking). Google claims to not be a huge fan of paid linking campaigns, yet nofollow forces most new sites to consider that option. I've had a rough time getting Google to rank my new webpage above 0, yet I still refuse to ever pay somebody to link to my site. If becoming involved in worthwhile discussions is what it takes to get my rank up, ill gladly do so, and I probably would have anyways. I know I’m a little bit late on this discussion, but as a new hand to web design and this whole SEO craze, my personal opinion of nofollow is that it is hypocritical in a sense as far as Google is concerned.

In my opinion, a lot of what nofollow does is makes it nearly impossible for new, legit websites to gain rank without having to pay some stupid SEO company to generate links for them (this is unless they are already well connected to the web-design or blogging community and have friends to provide linking).

Google claims to not be a huge fan of paid linking campaigns, yet nofollow forces most new sites to consider that option.

I’ve had a rough time getting Google to rank my new webpage above 0, yet I still refuse to ever pay somebody to link to my site. If becoming involved in worthwhile discussions is what it takes to get my rank up, ill gladly do so, and I probably would have anyways.

]]> By: Thogek http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good#comment-276600 Thogek Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:03:05 +0000 http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good.html#comment-276600 I agree that over-proliferation of the rel="nofollow" attribute has the potential to dilute what has come to be a primary aspect of the Web, and the foundation of what has made Google (with its link-popularity weighted search) the dominant Web search engine. It certainly has uses that seem clear to me -- such as in links within rotating display advertisements, perhaps -- but when it comes to blog comments and other forms of fixed advertising and partner linkage, I'm not so sure it will be used (or received) well. In the blogging context, I'd love to see blog packages offer some options with respect to this, such as: All posts published directly without waiting for moderation. Posts that include hyperlinks get rel="nofollow" added to all of their links, and get flagged for moderator review. If the moderator approves the comment, rel="nofollow" attributes are removed from that comment's links. I'm sure many more options could be devised and discussed, and am very interested to see how all this evolves. I agree that over-proliferation of the rel=”nofollow” attribute has the potential to dilute what has come to be a primary aspect of the Web, and the foundation of what has made Google (with its link-popularity weighted search) the dominant Web search engine. It certainly has uses that seem clear to me — such as in links within rotating display advertisements, perhaps — but when it comes to blog comments and other forms of fixed advertising and partner linkage, I’m not so sure it will be used (or received) well.

In the blogging context, I’d love to see blog packages offer some options with respect to this, such as:
All posts published directly without waiting for moderation. Posts that include hyperlinks get rel=”nofollow” added to all of their links, and get flagged for moderator review. If the moderator approves the comment, rel=”nofollow” attributes are removed from that comment’s links.

I’m sure many more options could be devised and discussed, and am very interested to see how all this evolves.

]]> By: Mike's Blog => Say No To Nofollows! http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good#comment-19407 Mike's Blog => Say No To Nofollows! Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:27:52 +0000 http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good.html#comment-19407 <strong>I also agree that nofollows are not helping...</strong> [...] So I think if people contribute to my blog by adding a comment they deserve a link, a real link without a nofollow! [...]... I also agree that nofollows are not helping…

[...] So I think if people contribute to my blog by adding a comment they deserve a link, a real link without a nofollow! [...]…

]]> By: Teli Adlam http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good#comment-14477 Teli Adlam Fri, 09 Jun 2006 22:56:49 +0000 http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good.html#comment-14477 Moderating comments can be a tiresome task when running a large popular site that sees quite a few legitimate comments per day, many of which may contain links. Also, consider that some spammers no longer include links within the body of the comment and use their name as the anchor text. In such an event, comment moderation based on links within content truly didn't help. Offline trash happens and it's easy to pick up one piece of litter, but what to do when it grows to the size of a small landfill in a matter of moments? Though moderation is a viable solution, it's ultimately up to the blog author to decide what is best for the blog and its readers. Some blogs do well with comment moderation enabled, however, it may be that the blog owner needs to install better spam software, update their blacklisted words often, and keep a vigilant eye out for spammers. ~ Teli Moderating comments can be a tiresome task when running a large popular site that sees quite a few legitimate comments per day, many of which may contain links.

Also, consider that some spammers no longer include links within the body of the comment and use their name as the anchor text. In such an event, comment moderation based on links within content truly didn’t help.

Offline trash happens and it’s easy to pick up one piece of litter, but what to do when it grows to the size of a small landfill in a matter of moments?

Though moderation is a viable solution, it’s ultimately up to the blog author to decide what is best for the blog and its readers.

Some blogs do well with comment moderation enabled, however, it may be that the blog owner needs to install better spam software, update their blacklisted words often, and keep a vigilant eye out for spammers.

~ Teli

]]> By: Mike Sansone http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good#comment-13065 Mike Sansone Tue, 30 May 2006 19:50:48 +0000 http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good.html#comment-13065 Comment spam is the Internet's version of litter. If trash pick-up falls on a windy day, invariably I find trash on my lawn. I don't put up a fence - I choose to pick it up or leave it there. Offline, litter happens. Online, spam happens. But now, for hosted software such as TypePad - what needs to be done? I've noticed comments are redirected to the commenters site - not alot of link love for anyone bu TypePad there. Comment spam is the Internet’s version of litter. If trash pick-up falls on a windy day, invariably I find trash on my lawn. I don’t put up a fence - I choose to pick it up or leave it there.

Offline, litter happens. Online, spam happens.

But now, for hosted software such as TypePad - what needs to be done? I’ve noticed comments are redirected to the commenters site - not alot of link love for anyone bu TypePad there.

]]> By: Dylan Tweney http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good#comment-13064 Dylan Tweney Tue, 30 May 2006 19:39:33 +0000 http://www.businessblogconsulting.com/2006/05/the-nofollow-rule-no-good.html#comment-13064 Jim, thanks for linking to my site & carrying on the conversation! As for comment moderation holding up discussions -- this kind of moderation puts the burden of making that tradeoff on the commenters, not on you. If they want pure, fast discussion, let them post comments without hyperlinks--they'll go straight to your site. If they want the benefit of links back to their site, then they'll have to accept the possible delay while you get around to moderating the comments up. Seems like a fair trade. Jim, thanks for linking to my site & carrying on the conversation! As for comment moderation holding up discussions — this kind of moderation puts the burden of making that tradeoff on the commenters, not on you. If they want pure, fast discussion, let them post comments without hyperlinks–they’ll go straight to your site. If they want the benefit of links back to their site, then they’ll have to accept the possible delay while you get around to moderating the comments up. Seems like a fair trade.

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